Icelanders call it Berdreymin—the ability to see the future in dreams. On my travels collecting dreams from around the world,
clairvoyance has been one of the most persistent themes. I've met
Ukrainians in Donbass who report having dreamed about the war before it
began, New Yorkers who recounted dreams of plane crashes and
smoke-filled rooms on the morning of 9/11, and people across the globe
who claim to have foreseen the deaths of loved ones.
Historically,
there has never been a scientifically rigorous way to evaluate these
experiences. Still, clairvoyance and other forms of ESP have been taken
seriously enough that both the KGB and CIA hadextensive Cold War Era programs.
More recent experiments into the phenomena have yielded
inconsistent results. Skeptics commonly cite
false-memory research to dismiss
believers, while supporters often blame unfavorable results on unrealistic
laboratory settings.
A
new app called
Shadow is poised to answer
skeptics and believers alike. The app records dreams (which you submit upon waking) and enters them into a
massive database, allowing thousands of the time-stamped transcripts to be
searched by keyword. Clairvoyance could be identified through specific keyword
spikes before major events. While the app was first envisioned as an introspection
tool for the
Quantified Self Movement, it may end up finally
answering a fundamental question about the nature of consciousness.
I met
with Hunter Lee Soik, the 33-year-old visionary behind Shadow—a man seeking
to predict the future by creating it.
VICE: What was your original goal for
Shadow?
Hunter Lee Soik: The first goal was to just give
people a mirror to look at their own subconscious data and say, "Oh, I didn't
even realize it was doing that. I didn't even realize I was worried about these
things." The goal is to bring some of these subconscious issues into the
conscious mind where they can be addressed.
How has that process played out for
you?
Well, I was adopted, and I've gone through a lot of things. I
know what pain feels like. I know what loss of identity feels like. I went
through all of that, and I came out on the other side, and now everything is
awesome. We all have that one thing we have to deal with, and it's not
something that can be suppressed. When you suppress something, it always comes
out in some weird way. You have to address it, get past it, and move on to the
critical question of, "Why am I here?"
How did your issues show up in your
dreams?
If we talk about that, some things will have to be off the
record.
Is there a meaningful dream that you
can talk about?
Well, in one, I died—well, I don't know if was really dead, but I
had gone somewhere else. I had this glimpse of some sort of other world.
And, when I woke up, I was sad because I had to come back.
What was the world like? It was the most religious thing I've been through, without being
really religious—more spiritual than religious. But it had all the
underpinnings of the typical religious story. I had the feeling of tumbling,
and felt like I was going into some sort of underground negative world. Then I
remember coming back up on this conveyor belt and seeing light. [In the dream]
I attached God to that concept, and made that the reality.
It's remarkable how often mystical
concepts appear in dreams. When I first heard about Shadow, it struck me as a
massive experiment about collective unconsciousness.
Could be. I mean, what happens if we can start looking at
precognitive dreams, and say, "Oh there are actually correlations that are
happening in real time." If we had this data back during 9/11, we could point
to a time-stamped audio file describing the dream that predates the actual
event. So, how could you then refute that kind of hard data? But, then what
happens, when that reality becomes
the
reality? It's kind of like Schrodinger's Cat. What kind of loop happens there?
What have you found so far? We have a very small user base right now of 9,000, so we don't
have a large enough dataset. But there is something to be said about media
content going into dream consciousness. I could be completely unaware of what's
happening in the news, but I would know what the top trending things are because
they come up in the dreams: ISIS, Ebola, Robin Williams.
What's your ultimate
aim now for the app?
Ultimately, we want to use technology to make people more human.
Dreams are a perfect way to start. The idea is, if someone can trust us with
their dreams, then they're likely to trust us with other important aspects of
their lives. And what I mean by that is if you walk 10,000 steps in a day, do
you fall asleep faster? Do you record more positive dreams? Does the mattress
you sleep on make a difference? Right now, technologies are providing a
tremendous amount of service, but the business psychology is wrong.
[Corporations are] on an ad-based revenue model, so they have a lot of data
about you which they don't share with you. They can use it to manipulate you.
What's the alternative? I think there's a sunrise on a new paradigm where we use data
intelligently to help people live better and find better products.
And you're giving the data back to
the people who generate it?
Absolutely. And you're helping people use the data to make
connections. Who else is dreaming what you're dreaming, for example? I really
believe a lot in quantum field mechanics. And I believe that a lot of the science
jargon [means] simply: If you're happy, and you hang out with someone, you make them
happy, and they make someone else happy. That's what I believe it's all about.
Follow Roc's latest project collecting dreams from around the globe at
World Dream Atlas.
The Man Behind New App Shadow Wants To Quantify Our Dreams
Hunter Lee Soik is taking the quantified-self movement to bed. Can he change the way the world thinks about dreaming?
Hunter Lee Soik
has a vegan shake called Phood for breakfast and lunch every day. He
has no computer, just an iPhone and an iPad, and conducts business while
walking everywhere, sending out emails as he paces around parks. Soik
lives out of temporarily rented homes in Berlin, San Francisco, New
York, or Los Angeles—often found via Airbnb—and wears only black: five
odor-resistant Nike T-shirts and three pairs of Levi's, which he washes
by hand and air-dries.
Soik, 32, tracks a wide assortment of personal data, including what
he eats, where he travels, his pulse, the number of footsteps he takes,
and how many calories he burns. But a few years ago, he realized that
one aspect of his life was going unmonitored: his dreams. He started
wondering if dreaming might be connected to the other quantified-self
data that he monitors so closely—and if it would be possible to keep
track of his dreams with a mobile app.
So Soik, who previously worked as a freelance creative director for clients such as Kanye West and Italian Vogue, created an app to do just that. Shadow: Community of Dreamers,
crowdfinanced with $82,500 raised on Kickstarter and set for wide
release in July, wakes people up with an alarm, prompts them to
anonymously describe their dreams, and beams those reports into a massive online set,
where they can be searched and analyzed. Dreams are coded for age, sex,
location, and time, allowing researchers to find population
norms—assuming enough people participate. "If we want to make the
world's largest database of dreams," says Soik, "we need the world on
our side."
Just as apps such as Fitbit,
Weight Mate, and Sleep Cycle may overturn assumptions about health,
insurance, and preventive care, Shadow's developers are betting that
their "mood barometer" can disrupt how we consider mental health. "I
think dreaming serves as an emotional mirror," says Kelly Bulkeley, a
dream researcher and adviser to Shadow. "If you give me enough dream
samples, I can tell you what are the major emotional issues and
relationships in your waking life."
Dream research may sound like shamanism, but scientists are spending
serious money and time on it. This year, a Japanese team decoded dream
traits from brain activity during sleep, and researchers have linked
dream content with learning, emotional processing,
and creative insight. Scientists now know a lot about the how of
dreaming, but the question remains why. People typically spend one to
two hours a night in REM sleep, when most dreaming occurs. That adds up
to five years of dreaming during the average lifetime. Given how much energy humans
burn nightly on dreaming, many scientists believe these hallucinations
probably have significance. One obvious possibility is that dreaming
relates to mood. Studies have shown that traumatic events do affect
dreams: The types of dreams somebody has after getting a divorce can
predict whether they will later need antidepressant drugs, and following
9/11 dreams across the U.S. showed increased similarity to
post-traumatic-stress-disorder nightmares, even when they didn't include
obvious connections such as airplanes or tall buildings.
Shadow is designed to capture those sorts of trends on a broad scale. "The numbers [of online dream reports
after 9/11] were nowhere near as high as Shadow will be able to collect
and not as systematic, not as international," says Deirdre Barrett, a
clinical psychologist at Harvard Medical School who's working with Shadow as an adviser. "For major world events—natural disasters, political events—it will be interesting."
One of Shadow's primary goals is to create a dream database that will
help determine norms. How often does the average person have nightmares
versus someone with depression? Do children dream differently from
adults? How do dreams change after a trauma? And if dream change
precedes medical issues such as depression, could dreams be used to
diagnose problems before they strike?
Not everyone embraces this sort of thinking. Dreams are hot in
science, but they've fallen out of fashion in psychiatry. Sigmund
Freud's dream-interpretation and sex-focused theories of childhood
trauma and repression have mostly given way to biochemical hypotheses of
mental disorders. In his book The Dreaming Brain, Harvard
dream researcher and psychiatrist J. Allan Hobson makes the
argument—supported by many psychiatrists—that dreams are completely
random, triggered by neural firing in the brain stem. And even some
psychologists who embrace dreams as part of the therapy process aren't
keen on Shadow's approach. "The problem is the notion of coding dreams
for meaning," says Sherry Turkle, a psychologist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
"There is not a 'dream key' that links particular words to particular
meanings. It is a problem if you take the complicated work of dream
[interpretation], dependent on the patient's associations, and turn it
into an algorithm."
But to the extent that people's emotional lives can be quantified,
Shadow offers a potentially higher-resolution and objective snapshot of
mental life. If dreams could somehow be related to mental health, why
not track them with the machines we keep near our bodies all the time?
"What we want to do on a psychology level," Soik says, "is create the
'understood self.' If I walk 10,000 steps, does my pulse go faster? Do I
record more positive dreams? The goal is to see patterns in the
data—and to use that visualization to raise more awareness of yourself."
Ryan Hurd
About a year ago, hunter lee soik cold-called me and said he wants to
build a new dream app called SHADOW that could not only make it easy to
record dreams, but also share them socially in order to create a
massive global dream database. To be honest, I have heard a lot about
this kind of idea in the past, and so far hadnt been all that impressed
with whats available.
As hunter talked about how he came to find
his dreams after years of neglect, I was drawn in by his authenticity.
Later, I learned that he has some distinctive business experience that
gives his idea a real chance to make a difference in the world. For
starters, he combines an interest in technology and fashion and has
designed experiences for some major artists and brands, including
Stella McCartney, Art Basel as well as Kanye West and Jay-Zs Watch the
Throne tour. Hes also formed the Wardenclyffe Institute, an innovation
consulting group that forms brief networks to solve problems. I realized
that Hunter might actually be able to pull off this project; in fact, I
dont know anyone else who could.
So, SHADOW is a concept that just started its initial crowdfunding stage.
Once built, it will be a smart alarm clock app that helps users
remember and record their dreams and in the process, build what could be
the worlds largest searchable database of dream content.
As a dream researcher, the potential here makes me a little giddy.
Thats primarily why I signed up to help hunter as a dream expert and
advisor. This week I sent him some questions in my role as a regular
contributor to Reality Sandwich, to dig deeper into his vision for this
app and what it could do for the worlds dreamers and visionaries. Ryan Hurd: hunter, your resume is really intense. Personally
Im wowed with your history of working with brand experience for
performers like Jay-Z and Kanye. Your latest project, SHADOW, in
contrast must make your entrepreneurial friends do a double-take and say
WTF dreams, really? Whats the story behind this project?
hunter lee soik: The idea for SHADOW was sort of a byproduct of
designing brand experiences. I loved that workits incredibly
stimulating. But its also a 24/7 kind of job, and I rarely slept. So
when I finished up my work with the Watch the Throne tour, I decided to
take a break. And I did what most people do when they suddenly have a
huge amount of free time: I slept. A lot. It had been years since I was
sleeping deeply, hitting those REM states where the real dream magic
happens, and now suddenly I was having all these incredible dreams, and I
wanted to remember them. I checked out the apps, but nothing really
spoke to me. They didnt look how I wanted them to look, or function how
I wanted them to function. I wanted a more social experience. So I
decided to make one. When you got some rest and your dreaming came back, what were
your dreams like? How specifically did your dream experiencesgood or
badrelate to your creative process that has led to the idea of SHADOW?
They were really inspirational, which has always been the case with
the dreams I remember. What was different this time was that I was
paying attention to them. And I quickly realized that I didnt even have
a way to capture my dream experiences on a pragmatic level, let alone
interpret them. So the idea of SHADOW is to be a platform for gathering
and sorting through the data. Once its built, Ill be going through the
process of understanding and interpreting my dreams on a deeper level
alongside the rest of the SHADOW community. How has remembering and sharing your dreams personally improved your life?
Its allowed me to identify short and long term patterns in my life,
which has opened up a lot of different avenues for self-knowledge. For
one, I taught myself to lucid dream. Its amazing what a little bit of
attention can yield. At this point, Im lucid dreaming about 10% of the
time. Before I started this project, I wasnt really thinking about my
dreams or how I might use them; now Im able to. Was there a particular dream that catalyzed your idea for SHADOW?
The dream that sparked the idea is the one Ive been using in the alpha version of the app. You can listen to it here.
Its about me going to a party at the Reichstag in Berlin, and being
told by the doorman that its a private party, and I can only get in if I
find Michael Jordan. So I wander the streets, find Michael, and we head
into the party together, to find it decorated with a bunch of 3D
holograms of his most famous dunks. This seems like a typical dream,
with a loose narrative united by a bunch of different random things from
my life. But when I looked at it deeper, it was bringing different
pieces of my life together. Things Id experienced earlier that day with
bigger moments about access and transparency. There were a lot of
layers there, and I really liked wading through them.
Nice. I love how dreams that start out looking random reveal
themselves to have deeper levels. But how does keeping track of your
dreams fit in with the Quantified Self movement? Collecting dreams arent like counting calories or measuring the miles youve run today theyre so personal, and subjective.
Right now, Quantified Self is all about measurement: using new forms
of technology to collect data on different areas of your life. But the
movement to use data to better understand ourselves really has three
parts: technology, psychology and biology. QS has really mastered the
technology part, but hasn’t yet moved onto the other two. That’s where
SHADOW lives. Can you elaborate?
We want to bridge the gap between technology and psychology, to jumpstart that natural evolution from quantified self to understood self.
So the big question is: what do we do with this data? How does it help
our lives? What we decided was actually pretty simple: to scale it, we
need to move beyond individuals and build a community. To make our dream
data meaningful, we need to be able to contextualize it with data from
other people. I like that. So its not just about
making a personal data dump, but creating community that also results in
personal illumination as well as collective patterns thats something
you dont often hear about in the digital era when it comes to apps and
devices.
Yeah, well we have the technology to create a platform that can
handle this kind of global data cloud. We’re also fortunate that we’re
focusing on a data set that doesn’t even exist yet. Our subconscious
minds our SHADOWare really under examined. But current dream science
suggests otherwise. Can you say more about the new science of dreams that youre hoping to employ?
We problem solve in dreams, we process our experiences, we make
long-term memories, and we come up with crazy ideas. There’s a reason we
call our biggest, most bombastic goals “dreams”it’s because our dreams
are where this magic happens. We really believe that recognizing this
potentialand being bold enough to harness itis key to our future. Speaking of big dreams and goals, I heard that you attended a Summit Series
conference, an innovation gathering for cultural creatives and
innovators that meets on the side of a mountain in Utah. I also heard
that you were assigned to sleep in a tent with Daniel Pinchbeck as your
roommate. Did you and Daniel get to connect?
I got Daniels book 2012 from a friend back in 2006, and I
was totally blown away. So fast forward to this year, Im at SUMMIT
series and I see him in the crowd. And I kinda froze, I always wanted to
meet and tell him I admired his work (keep in mind I never freeze; I
spent a decade working in fashion and luxury goods and never missed a
beat). There was never really a good opportunity for me to say hello.
When I got back to my room that night, my roommate was already asleep.
The second day was much of the same, we didnt get a chance to talk, and
I was asleep by the time my roommate came home. As it turns out, that
roommate was Daniel Pinchbeck. I didnt know it at the time, cause it
was pitch black in the tent. And the next morning, you look over, and there he is. So did you ever get a chance to tell Daniel you admire his work?
Yeah, I did. Thing like this are always reminding me how extraordinary the universe is. Many Reality Sandwich fans are fascinated by and involved
with projects that support the concept that a change in global
consciousness can ensure a better, more sustainable future. How do you
think SHADOWand working with dreams in generalcan be part of this
shift?
When we remove the barriers of reality, when our mind can really
wander, we start to push the boundaries of our own potential. Over that
last few centuries, our culture has advanced at such a rapid rate that
weve accelerated some really wicked problems, problems like climate
change and income disparity that seem insurmountable. But our technology
has also advanced, and weve never been more prepared to tackle them.
To do it, though, well need to come together and dream big. Thats
where SHADOW can help. By helping people recall and spread those wild
ideas they have without the constraints of normal rational awareness, we
can unlock some important insights. Love it. Not that rational awareness is useless, we dont
want to throw it away, but that other ways of thinking can be just as
vital to our lives, like dreams, visions, creative fugues, etc, and can
make way for radical change.
Exactly. Ideas of that magnitude almost always sound crazy at first, and our world needs more of them. Thanks Hunter. Good luck with the Kickstarter campaign. And good dreaming!
Thank you Ryan!
World Dream Atlas is an index of dreams
from around the globe gathered by Roc Morin. The goal is to collect
dreams from every country on earth.
“In my last
lucid dream, I entered a room of people watching a wall of TV monitors.
They talked to me and answered my questions. I was so surprised that
they had real personalities - that unlike all my other lucid dreams,
they were independent of me. They
explained that they travel in dreams. ‘You went too deep,’ they warned.
‘You shouldn’t be here very long.’ I said, ‘Okay.’ I tried to wake up,
but I couldn’t. I asked them to help me. That’s when one of the women
came behind me. She touched my shoulders. I fainted, and when I woke up,
I was back in my bed.”
- Kiev, Ukraine
“I was at a
festival, and instead of tents, everyone was sleeping in beds on a
field. I was laying on my bed when a plane flew overhead. It was flying
very low. The plane door was open, and I could see saw a girl sitting
there. I just saw her hair, but I knew it was my ex-girlfriend, Samantha.
‘Hey, Samantha!’ I shouted. ‘Look!’
She turned around and she said, ‘Hi.’
I shouted back, ‘I have my bed at the same spot where we were two years ago at this very same festival!’
‘Good for you, Gregor,’ she said. And then she flew away.
- Berlin, Germany
“On my father’s
side of the family, there is a history of being what’s called
‘Berdreymin.’ It means that you can dream things that later happen. At
one time in my life, I used to write down my dreams, and a lot of the
time they would come true even though they seemed quite bizarre. But, I
don’t do that anymore, and I have a lot fewer dreams now.”
- Reykjavik, Iceland
“In Korean
culture, there is a thing called a ‘Taemong,’ which is a birth dream.
Allegedly one or both parents have a dream that indicates what the
nature of their child will be. Men often get these glorious comparisons
to dragons or tigers - very
powerful, virile things. And, women get the stupid end of the stick - a
morning glory flower or an herbal root. Apparently, mine was a white
horse that came through a herd of dark horses, ran ahead of the pack,
and galloped through a shallow stream. Apparently, both parents had this
dream. Because they had this dream, they thought they were going to
have a son. They thought I would be this strong, masculine man. I read
that horses in East Asian warfare are inextricably linked to the idea of
bomb-proofness. They would condition horses by exposing them to little
things like little bombs and tiny mines, so that when the horses finally
got to the front lines they would be undeterred. Bomb-proof.”
- Staten Island, New York, USA
“I grow up in
Soviet time, so I remember Cold War well. At school they teach us how to
use gas mask: on, off, on, off. They teach us how to shoot the
Kalashnikov. I remember when I was maybe 10 years old, waking up because
of terrified dream. I saw nuclear explosions through my window -
mushroom clouds. We expected attack from the U.S. We were always taught:
they want to kill us.”
- Chernobyl, Ukraine
“My sister has
always been ill. She has a genetic disease that kept her in the hospital
for much of her life. My mom and my dad were told that if they had
another baby, the baby would have a ninety-percent chance of getting
this disease. So, when my mom
recognized that she was pregnant with me, they were scared that I would
get this disease, and they were thinking maybe not to have me. Then, my
mom had a dream that a priest came up to her. The priest was a character
in the book she was reading at the time. The priest said, ‘You will
have a completely healthy girl.’ When my mom woke up, she told my dad,
‘We will have this baby. She will be fine.’ And, I am fine. I’m
perfectly healthy.”
- Berlin, Germany
“I have dreams
where I’m sneaking around inside other people’s houses. There’s this one
house that I go back to often, so I know it very well. I’m trying to be
really quiet so the people whose house it is don’t know I’m there. My
mom and my sister also have house
dreams, and they also have houses that they go back to often. My mom
tells a story about how, when I was 2 or 3 years old, I was sleeping
next to her while she was having one of her house dreams. She was
exploring a mansion that had a lot of paintings when she got curious
about one painting in particular. She lifted the painting to take a look
at the back, when at that exact moment, in real life, I yelled out in
my sleep, ‘You’re so curious!’”
- Berlin, Germany
“I was a
satellite circling the earth, and I wanted to zoom into the world. So, I
zoomed into a city. Then, I zoomed into a street. Then, I saw a van,
and I zoomed into the van. And, I was like, ‘Wow, look at that! There’s a
little human in there!’”
- Berlin, Germany
"I used to see
the future in my dreams. It was exciting at first, but it became boring
after a while to always know what was going to happen. So, I forced
myself to stop."
- Zürich, Switzerland
"I dreamed of
being a fish. I had all the knowledge of being a fish and having gills. I
didn’t know anything about being a human prior to being a fish. Being a
fish wasn’t any different than being a human. "
- The Hamptons, New York
“I had a few
nuclear bomb dreams when I was a kid. I spent most of the dream digging a
den, and buying supplies. Then I went looking for all of my friends and
family to try to get them into the den.”
- Zürich, Switzerland
“I jump and
then I fly, each time higher and higher - higher than the trees, higher
than the trolley wires. But, whenever I look down, I’m afraid to land.
I’m afraid that I will fall like a stone. Despite the fear, it’s a great
feeling. I think that’s what it will be like when I die.”
- Slavyansk, Ukraine
“In my last
dream, I met my father who passed away some time ago. We used to fish
together when I was a kid, and in the dream I wanted to ask him when we
could go on one last fishing trip. I didn’t get to ask because the dream
ended too fast. I had always wanted to go fishing with him one last
time as an adult, but we never had the chance.”
- Warsaw, Poland
“I was naked,
diving deep into a pool, over and over again. After that, I lay still,
floating in the blue water - my head surrounded by lily pads. Suddenly I
was terrified. The silver necklace that my grandmother gave me, the
bracelets that my boyfriend gave me, and my mother’s wedding ring had
all fallen off my body. I dove as deep as I could go, but I couldn’t
find them.”
- Bangkok, Thailand
“Sometimes I
confuse dreams with reality. I have dreams of waking up and making
coffee. Then when I actually wake up, I do it all over again, and I
think, ‘Didn’t I just do this?’”
- Berlin, Germany
“In lucid
dreams, the people you see are not really people. They are like
phantoms. You can see them, you can touch them, but you can’t
communicate. I tried many times to wake somebody up. I’d shout, ‘Wake
up!’ to somebody walking on the street,
but they would just listen and nod. Sometimes, they might smile.
Anyway, I would understand that this is not a real person. I even saw my
mom once like that. I said, ‘But, mom, you’re real.’ She just smiled
and shrugged.”
- Kiev, Ukraine
“My dad was
shot when I was eight years old. My grandmother dreamed that he came
into the house, lifted me from my bed, gave me a kiss, and put me to
rest again. Then he left the house. Five minutes later, the phone rang.
It was the hospital telling us that he had died.”
- Reykjavik, Iceland
“I had a dream
where my teeth were broken. They say it means that someone is thinking
bad thoughts about you. Probably my ex-girlfriend.”
- Prague, Czech Republic
"Vampires!"
- Berlin, Germany
“I was working
as a journalist in Slavyansk when three agents of the DPR approached me.
I knew that something bad was about to happen. They asked for my
documents. Then, they accused me of being a spy. They dragged me to a
basement, beat me, and tied my
hands. For the first five days my eyes were covered and I saw no light.
Two of the men next to me were executed. Nobody knew at first that I was
taken, but that night, my mother had bad dreams that she couldn’t
remember. She woke up and called me immediately, but there was no
connection. Two weeks later, while I was still being held in the
basement, she dreamed that we met. In the dream, I was walking away from
her, and she could not stop me. ‘Where are you going?’ she asked. I
said, ‘Wait a little. I’ll be back.’ In four days, I was released.”
- Slavyansk, Ukraine
“There were men
with ropes tied to their wrists and ankles, and they would be lowered
into a huge swimming pool made of glass. There was bet between all of
them. The bet was that whoever held their breath the longest could kiss
this girl waiting by the far side of the pool. I don’t know who the girl
was. Her face was in the shadows. The whole scene was a bit brutal
actually. Yes, love can be rough.”
- Berlin, Germany
"My 12 year-old
daughter had a dream several days before our home was bombed. In the
dream, she was walking through the dark corridors of a stranger’s house
when she met a construction worker. "We’ll work on this house today," he
said to her. "We’ll work on your house next."
- Slavyansk, Ukraine
“I never
believed in dreams that could predict your future - but last winter, I
had a dream that I was walking down the street in Donetsk near my house.
It was hot and there were green trees, so I understood that it was
summer. Suddenly, I knew that if I
kept walking straight I would run into soldiers. So, I decided to turn
right, but I knew that the soldiers would be there too. I stood there in
that dream trying to understand how soldiers could be in Donetsk, when
at the time, the trouble was only in Crimea. When I woke up, I told my
wife about this dream. She said, ‘You’re worrying too much. Nothing
serious will happen.’ Now, it is summer and there are many people with
guns in Donetsk.”
- Slavyansk, Ukraine
“I’ve never been there, and I hardly know anything about it, but almost all of my dreams take place in Australia.”
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