Rudi Zygadlo interview: "I just keep weaving."
An insight into the memories that shaped the
Glaswegian producer’s remarkable new album on Planet Mu,
‘Tragicomedies’.
by Ruth Saxelby
There’s something about Rudi Zygadlo
that feels of another century. While the nomad-evoking scarves he wraps
round his head when he plays live have no doubt coloured that
perception and that magical name certainly helps, it’s ultimately down
to the Glasgow producer’s ornate approach to sonic texture and melodic
structure. While on his debut album ‘Great Western Laymen’ [Planet Mu,
2010] he wobbled somewhere between dubstep and erratic electronica, not
always successfully but always intriguingly, with his new album
‘Tragicomedies’ he has carved out a world with such maturity and
intimacy that it is hard to reconcile the two.
On ‘Tragicomedies’, out on Planet Mu on 24th September his melodies unfurl like leaves reaching
towards an ever-shifting light source. Songs reveal themselves in acts,
rather than any familiar verse/chorus or even build/climax form. Lead
single Melpomene, which was Dummy’s song of the week back in June
travels through several such acts, a startling metamorphosis that, to
our contemporary ears, has the shock of the new yet also seems to speak
to some other less structured time.
Moving
to Berlin might be the 21st-century artist’s equivalent of 17th-century
pilgrims sailing to the future United States. Not as many hand-wringing
colonialist issues to tackle, granted, but at this point it's
reasonable to expect to find a bar or club in the German capital where
one can have a lucid conversation without command of the native
language.
You might even find yourself chatting with Rudi Zygadlo,
who grew up in the Scottish town of Dumfries and moved to Glasgow
before Planet Mu issued his debut album, Great Western Laymen, in 2010.
Pushed, albeit awkwardly, into the pigeonholes of dubstep and "bass
music", in truth the producer was too eclectic to fit either tag neatly.
Tragicomedies, his second full-length, sees him moving further away
again from club sounds – despite settling in a city with probably the
most revered rave culture in the world today – and assuming the role of
an experimental pop auteur.
For better or worse, Zygadlo's pretty much incapable of playing
straight. Kopernikuss, the album's opening track, is a simple and pretty
ballad for keyboard and voice – adorned every so often with disarming
pitch shifts and time-stretch FX, just because he can.
Vocals, not previously prioritised in his work, feature on every track, and at various points recall Brian Wilson, Bowie in (as it happens) his mid-70s Berlin period, Animal Collective's Panda Bear and sensitive Auto-Tune abusers of the modern age like Drake and James Blake.
Musically, you're likely to hear the gloss of RnB and revamped 80s
funk: Timbaland's classic, sparse productions are present in Zygadlo's
DNA, while the title track stakes out unlikely territory between DāM-FunK and Radiohead.
The spin put on these forms is very personal, though. Rarely aiming
for the dancefloor, results are stilted and mannered during
Tragicomedies' weakest moments, and as a whole it will likely prove a
divisive album.
Yet there are undeniable hooks on cuts like The Deaf School and
another quasi-ballad, On. These 13 songs are a bold leap forward for
Zygadlo, and feel like a personal, intimate success. - Noel Gardner
Rudi
Zygadlo doesn’t have the best luck. The Dumfries-born musician had a
particularly bad run of it a few years back when, while studying
Literature and Slavonic studies at Glasgow University, his hallway
ceiling rotted and collapsed. Some weeks later there was a dust mite
infestation in the kitchen, and then, two days before his first ever
solo show, he received a call from his roommate: “Rud, you’d better come
home, the flat’s been burgled, your laptop’s been stolen.” All his
music was gone. Zygadlo was crestfallen. “I didn’t have much to be proud
of on that computer, but at the time it felt like I’d lost my chance,”
he says. To salve the pain he and his roommate went to the club night
Zygadlo was due to play anyway and duly got trashed. His roommate
eventually went home and Zygadlo received another call: “‘Rud, you
better come home, the flat’s on fire.’ So I ran home and there were like
20 firemen there. It wasn’t a big fire—I left a towel on the storage
heater—so half my room was melted.”
In a series of unfortunate events, the stolen computer ended up being a
fortuitous one. He spent the next few years playing guitar in a band,
reading dozens of books and deferring the rest of his degree in order to
continue making music in his bedroom, resulting in a deal with
venerated UK electronic label Planet Mu. On his debut album, 2010’s
Great Western Laymen he fuses far-reaching influences—Zappa (the music,
the satire, the politics), classical composers Janáček, Bartók and
Schnittke—with schizophrenic synth-psychedelia and bass-heavy tectonics.
Though the beats occasionally edge towards a dubstep wobble, any
bloodline to that scene is faint. In fact, it’s kind of hard to dance to
Zygadlo’s music. “I always feel like it’s a sort of charity dance,
like, Aw poor bastard, we better make it look like we’re enjoying
ourselves,” he says.
Bar a few tracks, the controlled maximalism on Zygadlo’s follow-up Tragicomedies
sounds even less dancefloor-appropriate. On “Black Rhino” anxious
violin seesaws are backed by the sounds of a robot ricocheting around
inside a tin garbage can, while “Russian Dolls” layers alien-pop vocals
with funked up electro and haunting piano loops. But perhaps the album’s
greatest departure is the emergence of intelligible lyrics. Halfway
through 2010, when Zygadlo left Glasgow for Berlin, he was nursing a
broken heart and thus the opening lyrics of the cinematic “Melpomene”—Meanwhile you’ve fallen in love/ And it hurts me overseas—cuts
brutally close to the bone. “Love seems to be the default thing to
write about,” says Zygadlo. “It’s quite cringy actually. Even if I’m
mumbling along trying to work out what to sing, the default vocabulary
is lovey-dovey shit… I guess that’s a subconscious thing that was on my
mind a lot of the time.”
Zygadlo’s misfortune is also fodder for his music. The halting,
fragmented lilt of “Tragicomedy” finds him recalling a near-death
experience: under the influence of hallucinogens, the 23-year-old had a
slight altercation with the window of his ground-floor apartment. “I had
to escape my bedroom and chose not to use the door,” he explains,
lifting his shirt to reveal two raised oblong scars on his back. A
passerby found him curled up and bleeding on the sidewalk and called an
ambulance. “I can’t really remember much about it, but being in the
hospital and not knowing what was going on and not being able to speak a
language, let alone German, was an absolute nightmare. I was just so
mortified. It was only a few days later that I thought, shit I really
got out of this unscathed.” Perhaps his luck is on the turn. - Kim Taylor Bennett
Scotland’s Rudi Zygadlo Is On A Different Planet (Mu)!
Why Rudi Zygadlo's 'Tragicomedies' is not an ode to Shakespeare.
Words and Interview by James Walsh and Joseph JP Patterson.
Following the release of his Great Western Laymen debut
album on Planet Mu, Dumfries-born Rudi Zygadlo uprooted to Berlin for
the best part of 18 months. However, rather than immersing himself in
all of the electronic dance music that the city has to offer, the
Scottish musician drew on other influences – writing the majority of his
intriguingly-named follow-up, Tragicomedies, while on Europe’s
mainland. Continuing on from where his debut left off – with its
literary references, but stripped of its more overriding dubstep
elements – his sophomore effort is more evolution than revolution. From
speaking with Zygadlo, it would do him a disservice to fall into the
trap of trying to make sense of his music by comparing him to artists of
a potentially similar ilk. As an aspiring artist, who did you grow up listening to?
I listened to a lot of Frank Zappa when I was younger. While I still
listen to him, I don’t listen as much as I used to. I’m into a lot of
classical music at the moment, as well as some lesser known ’80s pop,
the likes of Les Ritas Mitsouko and their album, Mark and Robert.
I don’t particularly like referring to other artists, as I end up
fighting to think of someone to say, and then afterwards, I don’t know
if they actually matter in regards to their influence on my own work. To somebody who has yet to hear it, how would you describe your music?
It depends who’s asking, but I tend to fold up and not try to
describe my music. It might be away from things they don’t know about,
but I suppose there’s a palette of dubstep – though less with this album
– with strong poppy structures, string jangles, piano vamps, but then
also a focus on strange modulations and being bass-driven. You could say
it’s obscure pop, with jazz and classical elements. And what inspires your songwriting?
Literature. Writers like Beckett, Bulgakov and Thomas Pynchon. There
are a lot of odes to Greek mythology on the new album, and one idea I
had for the album was to write a song about each of the nine muses, but
it didn’t unfold like that. I suppose I turn to the conventional things,
like love and closure – as everybody does – and I enjoy creating
pastiches to poppy songs. I’m passionate about making music but when it
comes to writing lyrics I just think, ‘Fuck!’ I find they can often be
quite cringey, but it’s also a case of drawing on incidents from my life
and then constructing them in a way that’s emotive and at the same time
makes the listener think deeper about what they’re hearing. The new album is called Tragicomedies. Where did the name for the album come from, and what’s the meaning behind it?
It may seem like an ode to plays or to Shakespeare, but it’s no
specific reference to theatre. It just seemed to be an umbrella term for
the content of the album’s lyrics. The writing process is very
nostalgic. In looking back on events as I wrote the album, my memories
have become compartmentalized into tragedies and comedies. Though, I
suppose making sense of the moments when writing lyrics is like creating
a dramatization to music. In what ways does it differ from the last album?
There’s certainly less dubstep on the album and more influence from
20th century music that can be classified under the umbrella of
classical minimalist. The electronic and bass feeling is definitely
still there, and the sound combined with the lyrics definitely gives it a
sense of now. Did writing in Berlin have any effect on you musically and determine the way the album sounds?
It’s hard to say if living in Berlin for a year and a half had an
effect on the music. It doesn’t particularly strike me as a homage to
Berlin, though lyrically it does deal with events there. I don’t know if
it would differ if I was living elsewhere or back in Scotland, but
there was no conscious effort or effect from the city. The first album
was all written back in Glasgow, in the space of just 3-4 months. This
was a very different process. It was much slower this time and didn’t
role off the tongue as easily. I probably used up all of my original
ideas on the first album, so I had to search deeper to not revisit
themes. Who do you hope Tragicomedies resonates with and what do you hope people take away from listening to it?
I hope it resonates with everyone, but that’s not going to happen. I
think it’s important that people see and listen to art and music beyond
that which is trending. It’s not that obscure, really, but people might
need to listen to it more than once. I hope people don’t try to
categorize it and hear the innovation instead. I’m always disheartened
when people compare one artist to another, I just think that it’s
important to try and not hear anybody else but see a piece of music on
its own merits. I hope people can do that with Tragicomedies. Finally, what’s the aim over the next few months now that the album is out there?
I’m going to be doing some more writing and we’re looking to tour Tragicomedies.
We’ve got a band semi in place, which is sounding pretty good, and
we’re playing in London soon. It’s in its fledgling stages and, as with
anything, there are obstacles to overcome but we’ll be definitely going
ahead with it. I’m very much looking forward to getting out there and
playing the songs.
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